GOD AND MOTHER NATURE: Mister Rogers and the Gift of the Honest Self

About the Author

Richard Louv is Co-Founder and Chairman Emeritus of the Children & Nature Network, an organization supporting the international movement to connect children, their families and their communities to the natural world. He is the author of ten books, including "Last Child in the Woods: Saving Our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder," "The Nature Principle," and "Vitamin N." His newest book is "Our Wild Calling: How Connecting to Animals Can Transform Our Lives — and Save Theirs." In 2008, he was awarded the Audubon Medal. He speaks frequently around the country and internationally.

It’s 1993. Fred Rogers enters a noisy hotel lobby, taking pictures of the people who have come to meet him. You realize that you have lowered the volume of your voice.

I look down at my son, Matthew, who had turned 6 on the day before Halloween. Normally ebullient and outgoing, Matthew is rigid with tension, and I notice that his upper lip is quivering. Rogers smiles and shakes Matthew’s hand and, before long, interrupts his conversation with the two adults and talks directly to Matthew.

Noticing that Matthew has pulled a book about rocks out of his little backpack, Mister Rogers tells the boy that he loves rocks, too, and that he owns a lapidary machine, which he keeps in an outbuilding on his property because of its constant whirring.

Matthew’s eyes widen. His own birthday present was a lapidary machine, which right now is in our house rolling and polishing some of the billion or so rocks that he has collected.

Rogers asks Matthew to show him his book, and now they whisper the secrets of stone.

I wonder: How many thousands of other children has Mister Rogers connected with in this way? For most people, such continual expectation of attentiveness would wear thin.

He turns to the other reporters in the room and other guests. One asks him what inspired him to pursue television as a career. He recalls, “It was Easter, 1951, and I saw people on television throwing pies at each other, and I thought, I want to work in that medium.” Among his career’s most famous moments was when he gently explained to America’s children what the word assassination meant after Bobby Kennedy was killed in 1968.

To his satirists, his cardigan sweater and soft voice are more bizarre than any clown wig or polka-dot suit; he is that rarest of television creatures: real.

I ask how he feels about the frequent impersonations by comedians, especially Eddie Murphy’s scalding sendup on Saturday Night Live, “Mister Robinson’s Neighborhood.” He says, in effect, that he does not take such satire personally. It does not hurt him. Not long afterward, he met Murphy, who burst out of his office, arms spread, grinning, and said, “It’s the real Mister Rogers!” Mister Rogers spread his arms and said, “It’s the real Mister Robinson!”

Other impersonations have been…harsher. Legal action was used to stop the Ku Klux Klan from passing out slips of paper in schoolyards in a Midwestern town encouraging children to call a telephone number; a voice sounding like Mister Rogers would answer with racial and religious hate messages.

He is deeply troubled by the violence and quickening pace of children’s entertainment. He says he does not watch much television himself. When children go to the refrigerator, he says, they assume that what the adults in the family have put in it is not poisonous. Children think of television in the same way.

Despite his anger at TV violence, he stops short of any political statement, any endorsement of proposed legislation to curb the violence, but he does not reject the idea. “There is so much we can do that has nothing to do with censorship. I know many people in the industry with basically good motives. They’re going to have to limit themselves, even if it means not making quite so many millions of dollars.” In 1993, the internet and smartphones are yet to become issues of concern.

He pauses, then says:

“Isn’t it amazing how much human beings are able to take? I wonder what the breaking point is. But I always look for the faithful remnant. You think that everything is lost and nobody believes in anything that is healthy anymore, and all of a sudden you find this faithful remnant of hope. It’s like my mother said, always look for the helpers. At the edge of any disaster, you will find them.”

As the other reporters leave to meet their deadlines, and the crowd thins out, Rogers turns and walks back to Matthew and me. His smile has nearly disappeared. He leaned close and said he wanted to say something more about the satirists who made fun of him. He said his earlier answer had not been fully honest. He said some of the impersonations, including Eddie Murphy’s, did hurt him at first. But over time he became convinced that Murphy’s was done with affection.

He had come to accept the seeming accuracy of some of the impersonations. “I think if I were playing a part, that would really bother me. I don’t play the part of Mister Rogers. I am Mister Rogers.” And he had realized that, regardless of how others may respond, one of the most important gifts a person can give “is the gift of your honest self.”

Remembering that Rogers is an ordained minister (and this explains something about his essential nature; he is more spiritual friend than activist), I mention to him that Matthew had asked me a theological question the other day, for which I did not have a good answer.

“What was it?” Rogers asks.

“Matthew said, `Dad, I’ve been wondering about something. Is God married to Mother Nature, or are they just good friends?’ ”

I had involuntarily laughed when my son said this the first time. Like most parents, I don’t always take my children’s pronouncements as seriously as I should, and my sometimes my reactions understandably anger them.

Mister Rogers does not laugh. “That’s a very interesting question, Matthew.” He thinks about it for a long moment. “Your mom and your dad are married and they’ve had two fine boys, and they’re mighty important to those two boys, and I think that’s one way we get to know what God and Nature are like, by having a mom and a dad who love us.” Maybe the statement isn’t entirely inclusive (what about single parents?) but the answer seems to work for Matthew, who nods.

Later, as everyone stands to leave, Mister Rogers walks over and sits next to my son. “Will you let me know, as time goes by, what answer you find to your question?” he asks gently. He is reopening the door to the question, encouraging Matthew to have the last word.

That is what a real friend does.


Postscript: In 2002, a year before Fred Rogers died, Matthew, then a teenager, sat down at the computer and wrote him a letter sharing his private thoughts about the answer he had found for himself. Mister Rogers sent a note in return, along with a photo of the two of them. He said that he appreciated Matthew’s “kind words about the conversation we had about your question of God and Mother Nature.” He asked him to give his father his personal regards, and added, “Matthew, you’re such a thoughtful young man. I wish you well in all that lies ahead.” 


Richard Louv
 is Chairman Emeritus of The Children and Nature Network and the author of nine books, including “LAST CHILD IN THE WOODS: Saving Our Children from Nature-Deficit Disorder,” in which a shorter version of this essay appears.

More writing and resources:

 ON BECOMING A NATURE-SMART DAD: A New Father Reflects on Life Outside, by Ray Rivera
AMELIE’S WILDERNESS ADVENTURE: Celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the Wilderness Act with My Four-Year-Old by Martin LeBlanc
FATHER NATURE by Richard Louv
MOTHER’S DAY: Mom’s Gifts of Nature by Richard Louv

Top photo credit: Jim Judkis | Focus Features | courtesy Everett Collection
Bottom photo, Matthew and Mister Rogers, sent to him by Mister Rogers.

Official 2018 trailer to WON’T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR, a new documentary about Fred Rogers, from Focus Features, in select theaters June 8.



  1. You never fail to touch something in me that I sometimes forget. Thank you, my good friend.

  2. You, Matthew and Mr Rogers made me cry -the good kind. Thank you.

  3. I just wrote a note that was quite heartfelt. But when I tried to post, recaptcha said there was an error. Is your post from any previously written material? Is it from your latest book? I would like to read this sometime in my church group as a portion of a small reflection. May I have your permission? I liked how you described the unfolding of Matthew’s question. This question stays with him as he gets older, and I wonder if Mr. Roger’s gave him ‘permission’ or a reason to do so.

    • Richard Louv

      Thanks, Melya. Sorry your comment didn’t go through. You may certainly have permission to read this to your church group. Many thanks for your kind words.

  4. Mr. Louv,
    What prompted you to remember and share this story now?
    What impact did this encounter with Mr Rogers have on your subsequent work?

    • Richard Louv

      Thanks for asking, David. The new documentary about Fred Rogers comes out tomorrow (there’s a link to the trailer at the end of the piece), and I wanted to point people to it. As far as his impact on my work, when the eco-theologian Thomas Berry died, the New York Times asked me for a quote for his obituary. I said I had met only two truly beatific people in my life. One was Berry, the other was Fred Rogers. He had a great impact on my son, and so did his story about his initial discomfort with the sometimes unkind impersonations, and his realization that he was who he was, and that all he had to give, the best he had to give, was his honest self — I repeat that line to myself, even now, when I’m about to give a speech. It helps. Again, thanks for asking.

  5. Herb Broda

    Thank you, thank you Rich for this beautiful retelling of a life-changing experience. Your writing, as always, is a “faithful remnant of hope” in a world so desperately searching. Thank you my friend.

  6. Thanks so much for this! Will be sharing it on Facebook and with a number of my psychotherapy clients. God’s “outside” world is healing for all of our souls and I often bemoan the loss of contact contemporary children have.

  7. Hi Mr. Louv,
    I am in the education department at a station in north Florida, can we please share your article about Mister Rogers as one of our blog posts? The wisdom, kindness and impact of Fred Rogers never ceases to amaze us here at PBS stations – the seeds planted in this words and actions have grown into a mighty forest! Thank you for considering – and for all the work Children & Nature Network is doing –

  8. Hi Richard,
    thank you for sharing. I didn’t grow up in America so Mr. Rogers has not been part of my childhood. But as an early childhood educator I value his authenticity. Even though today’s children would have to be reintroduced to the slowness of his show they all would appreciate (some desperately crave) the total and true attention your son experienced.
    I became a Christian as an adult and my attempt to answer your son’s question would be that God said when a man and a woman get married they become one. Mother Nature is not the result of a random Big Bang but the beautiful- and intentional creation of a creator aka God. They have always been one because Mother Nature is God’s love language to all to seek it.

  9. What a touching and personal memory, what a tribute to Mister Rogers, and a tribute to you as parents of a very thoughtful child! Thank you for sharing this.


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